Boiler plant operating permit fee consultation: Verbatim feedback received

The comments below were received in response to the boiler plant operating permit fee consultation, subject to Technical Safety BC's privacy policy and content submission guidelines.

This contains feedback received by the consultation closing date of May 3, 2019, 11:59pm.

Total number of responses: 19

Date Respondent Charge fees according to plant class Same fees for initial and renewal Fees overall Comments
March 21, 2019 Year Fifty Innovation Inc. Reasonable No (lower renewal) Somewhat reasonable Have you considered fees by plant type? A fifth class High Pressure Thermal Fluid Plant poses more risk (flammable, poisonous, degrade over time) and evaluation work than a fifth class High Pressure Steam Plant.
March 22, 2019 Interior Health Reasonable Yes Reasonable Fees are somewhat Reasonable, maybe even on the low side. However, any fees collected under this program should only be used for the Boiler Program. Under the Boiler Program, Permit Fees, Certification Fees, and all other Fees for the Boiler Program should only be used for the Boiler Program and should be used to Open the Offices in Nelson and Terrace as it is a hardship for Power Engineers in these areas to attend distant offices for Invigilation purposes, or for permitting purposes.
March 25, 2019 Orica Canada Reasonable No (lower renewal) Reasonable N/A
March 25, 2019 Government or governmental agency (received by email) N/A N/A N/A [In] my opinion the fee should be higher for the lower classification of plants; and the lower fee for the 1st Class Plants. The 1st Class Plants have Certified Operators and pay the highest fees for Pressure Vessels and Boilers because the have so many on-site. The lower Classification of Plants such as 5th Class, usually have no Certified Operators, pay the lowest fees and have the most non-compliances.
March 26, 2019 Anonymous Unreasonable No (lower renewal) Unreasonable Your previous consultation promised no fees for this. Now you are backtracking after you already put in fees for power engineer renewals. Everyone in industry is now paying more - owners, contractors and power engineers. How much of our fees are going towards your new name change and your fancy new office?
April 9, 2019 Anonymous Reasonable No (lower renewal) Somewhat unreasonable Technical Safety already charges a fee on every operating permit for each individual equipment. Now want to charge a fee for the whole plant! Wait a minute! What kind of service in details will be provided? We pay inspector/officer for every single visit. How does Technical Safety BC better service us? Plant Classifications was added to the regulation and deposited in 2004.What has Technical Safety BC done for that? Why there was no charge before, but charge now, and from now on?What is TSBC gonna do differently?
April 10, 2019 Chemtrade Logistics Reasonable No (lower renewal) Somewhat reasonable N/A
April 10, 2019 Anonymous industrial laundry facility Reasonable Yes Reasonable I believe the fees are reasonable for an annual fee. Ultimately, it should help prevent injuries from power plants that would otherwise be unregistered and potentially unsafe to operate. You cant operate an unregistered car. Weather we like to admit it or not, boilers are bombs. Lets keep it safe
April 10, 2019 Lindsay Enterprises Inc Reasonable No (lower renewal) Reasonable N/A
April 10, 2019 Individual Drycleaners Ltd Yes No (lower renewal) Somewhat reasonable As long as the fees are put to good use I don't have any issue with them. If in a few years if there is a large surplus from the fees , a review should be considered.
April 10, 2019 McLean Mill Society Reasonable No (lower renewal) Neutral The boiler plants we operate are heritage & locomotive boilers, with limited use, as opposed to industrial/constant use. Although this complicates their administration, it would be nice to have a non-profit/ heritage classification, with lower fees.
April 11, 2019 Anonymous municipality Reasonable No (lower renewal) Reasonable N/A
April 12, 2019 UBCO Reasonable Yes Reasonable What is the fee for a Special Plant Registration Certificate (Risk Assessed)
April 12, 2019 Richmond Hospital, Vancouver Coastal Health N/A N/A Unreasonable We think it is not justified to pay for the plant operating permit when permits for the plant equipment are paid for. It seems that it is a way to charge us extra and will be happy if not implemented.
April 16, 2019 Anonymous Reasonable Yes Reasonable The fee schedule is adequate for the registration of plants. Hopefully the list of plants is searchable to those with accounts in Technical Services BC, understanding the actual amounts are confidential but the location and size of plant is not. I would also like to see the power engineering certification to be searchable to ensure personnel are presenting valid certificate when applying for positions as well as on an ongoing basis. The Chief Engineer is responsible to have properly trained personnel and cannot confirm the validity of certificates if he cannot search the data base.
April 16, 2019 Mercer Celgar Reasonable Yes Reasonable N/A
April 17, 2019 Anonymous food and beverage processing plant Reasonable No (lower renewals) Unsure N/A
April 23, 2019 Sinclar Group Forest Products Ltd Unreasonable No, lower renewals Reasonable The amount of work related to setting up systems to track compliance and or processing initial permits would be similar so the initial fee should be the same for each plant. From a safety point of view renewal fee's should be structured to reflect lower fees for those that put safety first and have a demonstrated track record of meeting their documented safety commitments.
May 3, 2019 Vitalus Nutritions Inc Reasonable No (lower renewal) Reasonable N/A
May 3, 2019 BCIT Reasonable No (lower renewal) Reasonable Fees are reasonable